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>> that's it for me. thanks for watching. i'll be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern, a "situation room" special report. newsroom with don lemon starts now. >> thanks for joining me. sex, drugs and possible murder. times two that is. the story is getting bigger by the day. alix tichelman, the alleged prostitute accused of shooting up a google executive with heroin and leaving him on his yacht to die is under lock and key now. and police in georgia are reopening a second death which with ties to tichelman possibly. her boy friend found dead of ahern overdose two months before the death in silicon valley. the story is unveiling plen itty about the booming underground sex trade. and laurie segall joins me now. laurie, this is a bizarre story. how lucrative is prostitution in
silicon valley and how are these people finding out about each other? >> this particular case is really just pulling back the curtain on some of the underbelly of silicon valley. a year ago, i spoke to a lot of high-end prostitutes who said there has been an uptick in our business because of all the money and there is so much money in the valley right now. these companies selling for billions of dollars. after this story came out, i got on the phone and spoke with many sex workers and they said laurie, the business now is so lucrati lucrative, it's like wall street. they're seeing so many clients. i spoke to one sex worker who went on the record and talked about what they were seeing. listen to this. >> i think it's really interesting that we have this increase of tech employees coming to the bay area, you know, they're working really long tense hours, which is giving them this disposable income. but along with that lifestyle, doesn't always leave room for traditional dating. so this really nice kind of mutually beneficial relationship
with professional sexual providers seems to work out really well. >> and don, so well, in fact, they're becoming entrepreneurs this their own sense. they are marketing towards the money and towards the geeks. i spoke with one woman who actually showed me the t-shirts she wears and the ads to try to attract the engineers. these are t-shirts with references to "game of thrones," geeks make better lovers. you can't make this up. these are the pictures of what she has shown. they're also accepting mobile payments via square, so they can accept credit card payments. square is kind of a techie company. and they're also wearing stockings with twitter handles on it. you just can't make this stuff up. but we are seeing that it's a lot worse. and now safety is really in focus. >> so is it -- i mean, are they trying to crack down on this or something they just allow because it is silicon valley? >> when there is money and power, this kind of thing happens. but we can take a look. they actually just shut down a
site called my red book. it was where all these women went and advertised their services for free. this is where the clients went for these services. and also this is where they rated -- people talked about whether or not they felt safe. so a lot of women are saying they're a little nervous now that this site has been shut down. but you can see the feds are really cracking down on this. as we know and as we see in this case, safety is in an increasingly big concern here. >> yeah, sex workers say that safety is an increasing concern. but my question is, i wonder if there is a demand. you see the mustache ranch, if there is such a demand, do you think there is going to be the push to decriminalize this in some way or at least regulate it? there is a huge movement right now. it's interesting you say that. because you get on the phone with sex workers and they say, hey, look, why don't we start an open dialogue about this? we want to be able to go to the cops and say, hey, this doesn't feel safe. they want to be able to change the laws to have a more open conversation about this. this is a huge movement the. and i will say, silicon valley is known for being a more open, free spirited place.
but then you have cases like what happened here with tichelman, who is going to appear in court wednesday. you have cases like this that really kind of -- you say, look, this stuff is very, very dangerous, it's an underbelly and something that the feds are going to crack down on. >> yeah. it's going to be interesting to watch. i print predict we're going to watch it like colorado and marijuana. this may be the impetus for at least a regulation of something we may never have thought. thank you very much, laurie segall. appreciate that. the ill-fated "costa concordia" is floating again and many people thought they would never hear that. today's process to float the giant cruise liner was both tricky and dangerous, according to engineers. the feat is being called a complex operation, never attempted before. it has been two years since the deadly accident in which the ship ran aground off italy, and ten months since the doomed cruise ship was brought upright and secured. 32 people were killed, and cnn
erin mclaughlin joins me in london. how are teams trying to move this giant damaged ship? >> they're using a lot of careful calculations. plenty of precise engineering going on in italy right now. that being said, today they did have some problems, some issues with the cabling. but the senior salvage master saying at the end of the day the key thing here is that the "costa concordia" is floating once again. however, there could be some rough waters ahead for the rotting cruise liner. after two-and-a-half years of intense preparation, the "costa concordia" is finally floating. the ship is on even keel, afloat again. and our technical systems are working very well. so i think we have seen great start of this refloating operation, and let's move forward. >> reporter: for the past ten months, engineers hard at work attaching metal boxes to either side of the ship.
monday morning, they pumped compressed air into those boxes. raising it some two meters off massive underwater steel platforms. next, they began to tug the "concordia" 30 meters east. it was a dangerous and tricky procedure. the ship is rotting, and there was a real risk the bottom of it could give way. once the ship was afloat, under water divers went to work to find the remains of a 32-year-old crew member. russell rebelo is the last missing casualty of the disaster. over the next few days, divers will begin to attach chains and cables to help secure the ship's vulnerable underbelly. and they'll lower some of the metal boxes on the star board side of the ship. then the full refloat begins. lifting the "concordia" up, deck by deck, clearing any debris along the way. once this ship is completely floated, the plan is to tug it slowly and carefully some 200
miles. all the way to the italian port of general owe would to be completely dismantled. they should be doing that by monday. don? >> erin mclaughlin, thank you very much. only six weeks since he left taliban custody but bowe bergdahl is getting ready to return to active duty. too soon? and how will he be received by fellow soldiers. and eric holder says he feels some of the criticism against president obama is based on race. we'll debate that next. and a kid spots an interesting duo chatting it up on a park bench, and look what's behind him. check that out.
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welcome back, everyone. attorney generic holder once again making high brow raising comments on race, politics and saying the opposition of president obama. he talks about it in an interview with abc news. holder spoke candidly saying he felt some of the contention directed at the president and his administration has to do with race. here he is. >> there is a certain level of see he men's directed towards me and the president. you know, people talk about taking their country back. you know, i can't look into people's hearts, look into people's minds. but it seems to me this president has been treated differently than others. there's a certain racial component to this for some people. i don't think this is the thing -- there's a main driver, but for some, there is a racial animus. >> the attorney general, eric holder, has never been shy from giving his opinion. in a speech in 2009, holder called the u.s. a nation of
cowards when it comes to confronting racial issues. let's talk about this further now with charles blow, cnn political comment at a time e and jason reilly, member of the "wall street journal" editorial board. "team obama's message, vote democrat because republicans are racist." you have had in 2008, barack obama outperformed al gore and john kerry among white voters in states like texas and the carolinas. has it occurred to mr. holder it that criticism of the president might be due to his performance and not his skin color." >> how much racism you think remains in this country, the policies are much more harmful to the prospects of blacks in america than racism. i mean, opposition to school choice, which helps kids out of failing schools, support for minimum wage loss, disproportionate blacks in the labor force, much more harmful
than residual racism in america. but to his point, i think the best rebuttal to what eric holder is saying is what president obama said when he was asked about this some years ago. you might recall jimmy carter said a few years back that a lot of the opposition to obama is due to racism. and obama said, you know, i was black before the election. and i would add, he was black before his re-election, as well. >> what do you say, charles? >> first of all, holder's comment is full of caveats. to the -- so many, in fact, that it makes it almost impossible to argue it. he's saying "some," even at the end of that statement, i don't think that most of the opposition to the president is because of race. however, he is saying this is what he believes. and i think there are a lot of people who want to have -- who believe that, and who firmly believe that there is some component of opposition to this president that is based on race. and whether or not that is even
explicit race bias or that implicit racial bias or whatever the case may be, they believe that that is true. the issue, i think, that we have to look at when looking at this issue is whether or not people can even have that conversation. if -- can this man actually say that this exists to some gre degree in america. this there is a mountain of evidence, and undoubtedly seeps into -- >> he talks about that in that same interview. pierre thomas asks him would you back away from the comments you made about us being cowards and he said no, i still stand by that. we do a terrible job when it comes to discussing race. you don't buy it? >> eric holder does not want to have a serious conversation about race, nor does president obama. these two went to al sharpton's convention to have a conversation about race. does al sharpton strike you as
the person you turn to to have a sober discussion about race? i submit you go to al sharpton when you want to have the opposite conversation. the question is why did -- >> i don't really know that. listen, al sharpton is on a different network and i don't always agree with the reverend al sharpton, but the reverend al sharpton has been very outspoken in many ways, helped a lot of people. and the last time he ran for president, he was actually one of the most sober-sounding people in the arena. that's among democrats and republicans. >> he's one of the most racially divisive people in this country. you do not go to al sharpton to help bring people together, racially, in america. >> is al sharpton one of the most racially divisive people in the country or do people make him out to be that way in certain ways? because if you bring up someone like an al sharpton, the right goes oh, my gosh, there goes al sharpton, made out to be a bogeyman. >> i think the former. i think this is the agenda that the black left pushes, that r e racism is an all-purpose
explanation for what ails black america. the question is why holder is making these statements and now. and he's making them for political reachsons. the democrats are concerned about turnout among minorities in november. they don't have a lot to offer in terms of policy. if you look at unemployment rates, how the economy is doing. all they have to offer here are scaremongering, scaring them to the polls, because they're worried, particularly those democrats -- >> there are a lot of tactics people use to push people to the polls, number one. number two, when you talk about, you know, blacks on the left, that's a very broad category to use. i think that we need to always look at all groups of people and say there are many diverse opinions, even among black people, either you can see on this panel there are different opinions about different things. and i think we need to respect the fact that people of the same skin color, the same gender, same, you know, orientation can have differing opinions about subjects. and once we start to respect that, we can have conversations and those conversations can
exist in the presence of al sharpton or anybody else. al -- i think you have to take every human being and look at the totality of their life and say it has not always been perfect, but there are good parts and bad parts and we can have conversations with this person, whoever they are. and i think that that is a proper way to look at any human being. >> i think that -- if you -- if you listen sometimes to the reverend al sharpton and others, and if you read what they actually say instead of just the headline or just the rhetoric that comes from the opposition, i think that many people will find that sometimes al sharpton does make sense. he's not always as charles said, a bad person when it comes to race. sometimes he's actually right on the money. >> well, i'm not talking about his personal character. i don't know him personally. i'm talking about the public policies that he's promoting on behalf of blacks and whether or not they have helped or harmed blacks in this country. that's what i'm talking about. and i strongly disagree with
what he's pushed in the name of helping blacks. >> there are a lot of things to disagree with all across the spectrum and whether or not they have actually been beneficial to the african-american community, and i don't think that any particular party or any ideology has, you know, the trademark on actually helping or hurting. i think what we have to do is look at each individual policy as an individual policy. and say is this helpful or hurtf hurtful. and we also have to look at the kind of systemic historical nature of racial bias, and we cannot divorce that from present behavior. we cannot divorce that from present outcomes. and once we look at the totality of those things, then we can make a rational decision about whether or not these things are helpful to black people and people in general. >> i've got to run. but i think that's why i made my point what i did about reverend al sharpton. i think people throw people's names in there as a hot button issue and you can't always do that as charles was saying. you have to take people on the totality of their argument. thank you very much.
i wish we could continue. we have to move on. bowe bergdahl suddenly returning to active duty. who will be with him at all times. plus families being forced to leave everything behind, and parents sending their kids away as a battle between israel and hamas escalates. luckily, he caught a taxi to take them away. and not a moment too soon. [ bomb blast ]
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it has been 44 days since his release by the taliban, and 32 days since his return to u.s. soil. a short reintegration period, no doubt, considering he spent five years in taliban captivity. but according to the army, bergdahl has finished undergoing therapy, and counseling. and is apparently ready to reenter life in the military. joining me now, rick francona, cnn analyst. colonel, that was fast. >> yeah. probably maybe too fast. he's going to suffer a lot of post traumatic stress. but i see what the army is doing. they need to get him back into a regular unit so they can begin the process of figuring out what they're going to do with him. >> so when we say active duty, does that mean -- what does that mean? will he have access to military weapons or anything like that? >> no. he'll be probably in some sort of office environment. but they need to get him into a unit with a chain of command and a commanding officer. and only then can they begin the investigation into what happened to him. >> yeah. so let's just say indeed he was desertion, right, that is
considered one of the worst transgressions in the military. will he ever be accepted by his comrades? >> i don't think so. i don't think he'll remain in the army. >> even if it's -- let's just say -- i was going to return, i wasn't deserting. you don't think he'll be accepted? >> not at all. the members of his unit consider him a deserter. and of course, the intent of whether he planned to return or not is what determines the crime of desertion. it's a very high bar. and it should be. but his life will never be the same, and i don't think he'll stay in the army. i don't think the army will have him. because there's too much of a cloud hanging over him. >> okay. but he has two soldiers with him? >> right. these are -- i guess -- >> is that for his protection? >> for everything, don. they're going to make sure nobody bothers him. because he could be a target. there are people that are not happy with him. also to make sure he doesn't try to harm himself. and also to make sure he doesn't walk away again. >> he's got a lot of questions to answer. >> he does. and now the general that's in charge of the investigation has
access to him. now that he's not in an inpatient status. >> the consequences for him, what kind of punishment? >> well, i think even if they have a court martial and find him guilty of the worst crime, they're not going to do anything to him. he spent five years in captivity at the hands of the taliban. what worse -- what are they going to do to him? >> it's interesting. his life -- you know, before you came on, his life will never be the same, regardless. if he's guilty or innocent of desertion -- >> right. he'll be a magnet for good publicity, bad publicity. he may be the poster boy for some sort of anti-war movement. who knows. but his life will not be the same as bowe bergdahl from idaho. >> yeah. thank you very much. rick francona, appreciate that. a teen in omaha had a friend snap an epic picture with a couple of guys hanging out on a park bench. and those guys just happened to be one of the world's richest men and a beatle. and the creators of "south park" laughing all the way to the bank
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chunk of change in their pockets. reports say $80 million. >> so what does this mean for hulu? this is a big get for a young company, isn't it? >> it is. hulu has its share of troubles, for sure. and all of these online platforms are trying to get more eyeballs to their own platform as people cut the cord and move away from the traditional cable model and watch more and more content online. the trick is, you have to have a lot of money to get the content. not just old content, like this "south park" stuff but also new content. and the real winner here has been netflix. they have been outspending anyone else that really wants to make a dent in this business. they have been outspending hulu and yahoo! and it's been working for them. they have 36 million subscribers. just to put this into context, hulu 6 million subscribers. >> is it an age thing? because i had this new entertainment system at home where you can press a button, and get this, and i find myself reaching for the old remote
control going wait, i want to do guide. it doesn't work that way anymore. >> it doesn't, but more and more people are going to be consuming the content that way. and right now it isn't as intuitive as all of these guys would like it to be. because there's no one singular spot for everything. you know, that's going to change. i was just in sun valley, idaho, where a lot of these media executives were trying to get their heads around, you know, exactly what you're talking about. how can we make this experience so seamless that people are going to use it like they use their iphones? >> right, right. thank you. appreciate it. christina. alushy. u.s. officials telling cnn that secretary of state john kerry may travel to egypt to seek a deal to stop the fighting next door between israel and palestinians living in gaza. the israeli bombardment continues.
the toll among palestinians, 176 dead. that since israel started bombing a week ago today. those bombs have wounded close to 1,300 in gaza. the israelis today say they downed this drone off the southern israeli coast. they say it flew from gaza among the barrage of rockets being fired by hamas, which thus far have caused no israeli deaths but at least one serious injury. let's quickly take another look at gaza receipt now. it is a tiny, orange strip by the mediterranean sea, about the same square mileage as detroit and getting bombed ten times an hour by the israelis. according to national, international monitors, that's what's happening. very, very dangerous there. cnn's ben wedeman has a report for you. >> reporter: the clock is ticking. itses time to go. israel ordered inhabitants to
leave by 2:00 p.m. sunday. hamas told them to stay put. i don't answer to them, says ahm ahmed, i do what's best for us. [ speaking in foreign language ] he's sending his family to safer ground in gaza city. relatively safer, that is. although he'll stay behind. luckily, he caught a taxi to take them away. and not a moment too soon. these children have heard the crash of shelling and air strikes for days now. but it still terrifies them. this is the third time in the last five years ahmed's family has had to flee their home. like almost everybody in this area, we're leaving too. it's dangerous. there is shelling there. some people staying behind. basically to guard their houses. but as the man back there told
me, 80% of the people in this area have already left. and at this time, the deadline to leave ends in 35 minutes. on the drive into gaza city, empty streets and rubble from the israeli air strikes. by taxi or mostly by foot, the people fleeing the north are heading to united nations schools, more than 1,000 in this school alone. food has yet to be provided. the only source of sustenance, a water tanker. she and her family of 15 fled their home at 2:00 in the morning. we told the kids, get up, get up, she tells me. we walked all the way here. this baby needs milk, but we don't have any. we have nothing. not even safety. there's little to do here but wait until the fighting stops,
and they can go back to their homes. if they're still there. >> ben wedeman is with us now from gaza. ben, you showed us that family fleeing northern gaza for gaza city. could people there actually leave gaza to get away from the bombing, and if so, where would they go? >> reporter: well, they can't go. and at the moment, the egyptian border which is the only way out, is closed to only those -- i mean, basically open to only those with egyptian travel documents or passports. so there's really nowhere they can go. and even though they will go to gaza city or other parts of the gaza strip, fact of the matter is, those air strikes which you mentioned are happening about once every five minutes, are happening all over gaza. so there's really nowhere truly safe in gaza where they can go. and as i said, they can't leave gaza at all. don? >> ben wedeman, thank you. appreciate your reporting. just ahead on cnn, the comic
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died. and he's dying in a pretty heroic way. it's what the creator said, what we come to know archie for as being heroic and dying taking a bullet for his gay best friend, kevin keller, so he is saving his life and we see that there. he's taking a butt for him. so that's how archie is going to die. i don't know how much we can get into the details of the plot, but the publisher did tell us, gave us a statement, and says archie died as he lived, a hero, representing the best in all of us. the fact that he's saving kevin -- kevin came along a little bit later. the most important new character in archie lure since archie, betty and veronica, is a metaphor for the rebirth this company has experienced. so he's going out like a champ. look at you. >> i just -- where have i been? you see the mad and cartoons aren't usually that political. >> well, kevin keller -- >> important social issue. >> yeah, because he's a gun
control advocate, and so there is -- arch ie is dying by a bullet. kevin keller is a senator, so there is a lot of kind of political themes that's going around in this. not sure how it's going to go over. but the final issue is on stands on wednesday. so we'll have to see. and we're going to say goodbye to the end of an era. i think it's nostalgic. one generation always asks the question, mary ann or engine ginger. i was team betty all the way. so yes. absolutely. i know they're laughing over here. >> i used to work in the same gym with ginger. >> really? >> she's very nice. she would say how do you get this. and i would think ginger -- okay. just let's not do that to scooby doo, please. i don't think i could take it. >> this man right here. scooby will live forever.
>> right anna navarro? >> team betty or team veronica? >> oh, veronica. >> veronica. >> team veronica for her. >> thank you, michelle. appreciate it. thank you, anna navarro, appreciate that as well. germany claims rights against argentina yesterday in extra time. this goal in the 113th minute. did you watch this? this was crazy. the final score 1-0, the same score the germans beat the united states with back in june. tv executives hope to see a similar bump next world cup as a u.s. team figures to be even more competitive in 2018. i was in a bar, drinking a beer. and eating chicken wings. it was really fun to watch. >> yeah, good game. great goal. >> yeah. alrighty. just ahead, a six-month cnn investigation find sex predators are beating the system and getting hired at some of america's best-known theme parks. plus, what if there was a test to predict alzheimer's?
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attention to this story. a six-month cnn investigation finds sex predators are beating the system and getting hired at some of america's best-known theme parks. it is a story that is airing tonight, 8:00 eastern on "ac 360." investigative correspondent, kyra philippoussis is here with a preview. >> i discovered these employees at these famous theme parks are around our children and you have absolutely no idea how perverse they are. wor we're talking about men who work the rides, operate as security guards, even performers, and being arrested for sex crimes against children. you're actually going to hear from some of them in our story. but i want to be clear that none of these cases involve teenagers or children that were visiting the parks. polk county sheriff, grady judd, known nationally for these aggressive sex stings, and that's how we discovered a pattern of theme park arrests. here's just a taste of his passion to take down these child sex predators. i talked to a number of these men, and they said it's
entrapment. i was totally set up. >> what else are they going to say? are they get to get on national news and say, "i'm a pervert?" "i'm a child predator"? "i seek sex with little boys"? no, they're not going to tell you that. when they tell you that, look them in the eye and say you're a liar. what you really are is a pervert, a sexual pervert and a child predator. >> so kyra sha, what's the answ? how do you keep them from being hired in the first place? >> it's ongoing and intense background checks. and each of the representatives at these theme parks said we are doing everything we can, putting our power behind that in doing it. but obviously, it's still not enough. and you'll see that more can be done, our story is already prompting action orthopedic surgeon capitol hill and you'll see more on "ac 360" tonight. >> you point out none of these crimes involve guests visiting the parks, right? >> right, absolutely. but if you talk to child -- or
experts on child sex predators, it doesn't matter. the threat is still there. that's what they tell us. and, you know, more than anything, don, this is a story about awareness, every parent, every family member, just needs to be vigilant. and no matter whether it's theme parks or schools or churches, these sex predators, according to the sheriff, and we all have found out through these stories, know where the children are, they want to go where the children are. >> you never know. no one makes an announcement about their proclivities. so you never know. great story. i can't wait to see it tonight, 8:00 p.m., right here on cnn "ac 360." thank you, kyra phillips, always a pleasure to see you. if you could take a test to learn if you have an incurable disease, would you do it? researcher think they might have discovered the connection between a person's sense of smell and alzheimer's. see that story behind the study and what it means. that's coming up next. plus, the u.s. is sending some of the 50,000-plus immigrant children who have crossed the border on a one-way flight home.
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no needles, no big scanning machines and in one case, all patients would have to do is just sniff. our senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen, joins me now. so this is a smell test, elizabeth? >> i know, it sounds so weird, a smell test for alzheimer's, but it turns out the part of our brain that governs smell and alzheimer's are really the same part of our brain. so when smell starts suffering, it may be an indication you're going to go on to develop alzheimer's. so in this test, they gave people a different smells. and people who had a tough time distinguishing one smell from another, they were more likely to have alzheimer's. and the test was pretty good. it wasn't perfect, but quite accurate. >> so there's also an eye test. how does that work? >> when people get alzheimer's, don, they get these tangles in plaques you can see afterwards in an autopsy. you want do that when someone is alive, but if you look in the eye, you can sometimes see the same plaques and tangles, visualize them. and this test, very similar to the smell test, was not
completely accurate. but did a really pretty good job of predicting who was going to get alzheimer's. >> so you say that we are years away, elizabeth, from doctors offices offering these types of tests. will patients want to know, is there anything that a person can do to prevent alzheimer's? why would you want to know? >> you know what, don, there isn't much you can do to prevent alzheimer's. some people say keep your brain active, do cross word puzzles, some drugs might help with some of the symptoms but not a lot you can do. so i will tell you some people i've chatted with are like forget it, i wouldn't want to know i'm going to get alzheimer's or i have a high likelihood of getting alzheimer's when i get older. other people say i want to know, because i want to prepare. i want to do financial planning or do whatever i want to do while my brain is still intact. i think that it's going to be a very difficult decision for some people to make. do you want to know this? i mean, i will tell you personally, i wouldn't want to know at my age. i'm in my 40s. do i want to know in my 70s i'm likely to get alzheimer's?
i wouldn't want to know t. >> you don't look a day over 35. >> thank you, i appreciate that. >> a day over 30. i want to ask about another medical subject while i have you here. former president george w. bush had knee surgery. what do you know about it? it didn't sound risky. was it? >> no, not a high-risk procedure at all. it was a partial knee replacement and that means that parts of his knee, perhaps some of the cartilage, some of the bone, was deteriorating. doctors go in, get rid of stuff not working so well anymore and put in prosthetics to replace it. and believe it or not, people go home that day, and you can actually put full weight on your knee. he had this done on his other knee a couple months ago. and he was, you know, climbing the stairs that same day. so believe it or not, cutting into the knee, scraping away parts, putting in new parts, is really not such a big deal compared to some other surgeries. >> it's a routine procedure. but you know how he likes to bike. it's going to be a while, probably, right, a little bit. >> you know what, not as long as you might think. people do a lot of activity, even right away.
do you do physical therapy for a couple of months. so maybe he won't be, you know, biking at full force. but he might be biking relatively soon. >> all right. thank you very much. elizabeth cohen, appreciate it. top of the hour, earn. i'm don lemon in for brooke today. thank you for joining us. at any moment we should witness what u.s. authorities hope would be the hard-hitting message to stop the huge influx of undocumented immigrants coming to the border, seeing those who tried being sent back. we're expecting to see a plane from the u.s. landing in san pedro, honduras. the city is a reported murder capital of the world with a murder rate 12 times that of checking. homeland security secretary, jeh johnson said this week that the u.s. would start deporting the teens of thousands of migrants showing up at the texas border. 57,000 of them so far are
children. on the phone with me now is cnn's rosa flores in honduras. what do we know about this flight? >> reporter: i should start by saying that it's literally unfolding as we speak. we are awaiting to hear from authorities here, the plane could arrive at any moment right now. what we do know about that plane, there are 40 people on board, and these are family units. 18 women, 13 girls, 9 boys. that were deported from the united states into the state of honduras, specifically to san pedro. it's important to know as you mentioned, san pedro sula is dubbed the murder capital of the world. so a lot of these people while not from here, this is where they're being deported to. that's one of the big concerns for family members, is that they're being dropped off in a very dangerous city in this country. now